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Can anybody recall what the maximum time permitted was for completing a BFT in the 80's? (I'm working on the assumption the BFT's as I remember them might have changed since then). Also, am I right in thinking it was over a distance of 1.5 miles?
Anyway, I want to see if I can do one now in the gym. I realise that it's hardly realistic conditions in the gym - what with no DMS boots or Step Lively and Harry Harris giving "words of encouragement" but I'm interested to see if I could do one - finally.
ta
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| jimmy |
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Hello Paul,
As i remember the first 1.5 mile squaded was to be dead on 13 minuates, hence the walk in bit to form up for the individual, which in turn had to be completed individually in a maximum permitted time of 11.5 minuates. I think this is the regulation for that period however distances where determined on the morning according to Company Commander discretion, and yes i do mean Rag Robathan, or how many beers Keith Phipps had had the night before, Hope this helps, Cheers Jim.
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| Reg Varney |
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Second Jimmys answer
11 mins. 30 secs
then I believe it went up an extra 30 seconds for ya age, wasnt it
an extra 30 seconds for 30 years old and older.
Cheers
Reg
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| Paul McClellan |
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Cheers, lads.
Now all I need to do is convert 1.5miles to these new-fangled km's they've got nowadays! Bonus too that I now get an extra 30 seconds!
Thanks again, both.
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| PM | Can anybody recall what the maximum time permitted was for completing a BFT in the 80's? (I'm working on the assumption the BFT's as I remember them might have changed since then). Also, am I right in thinking it was over a distance of 1.5 miles?
Anyway, I want to see if I can do one now in the gym. I realise that it's hardly realistic conditions in the gym - what with no DMS boots or Step Lively and Harry Harris giving "words of encouragement" but I'm interested to see if I could do one - finally.
Paul, two names remembered well, but! the perks of being a Coy Clerk made you exempt from BFTS, that's why the timings are not etched on your memory like indelible ink. a bit of water on your hair and a wink from the Runt,,,,,,good luck on your Quest.
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| Ted Andrews |
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Mac,
I can just see you now in days gone by, with your dangling legs going ten to the dozen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
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| andy seph |
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BFT's in the 80's were Boots DMS lightweights belt and red PT Vest. Part 1 was 1.5mile (2.4KM) was a walk/run squadded. followed by a best effort run of !.5 Miles run. 29 and under was 11.30 mins 30-35 was 12 mins. 35-39 was 13 mins and 40-45 was 14 mins after 45 i belive it was just complete it. They then introduced the new BFT wearing normal PT kit and traning shoes.. and basically a minute was deducted from the times so Squad run was 14 mins followed by 18-29 yrs old was 10.30 30-35 was 11 mins etc i believe the new one came into effect in 1986-87 while the Bn was in Hong Kong.. Hope this helps
Andy Seph
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| Andy Seph |
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Also to assist ya... Miles to KM = times 8 divide by 5.. and KM to miles= times 5 divide by 8 hope this helps..
Seph
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| jimmy |
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Hello Andy, The "NEW ONE" was never introduced to the Bn during that tour, It was always lightweights and Boot order,
Cheers Jim.
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| Andy Seph |
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Jim we did do the new onein Hong Kong as I remember doing it at Tai Tam resevoir which was the usual place for it mate... Never forget the grinning face of Dave "Fit" Findlay hounding us ..lol |
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having attempted more bfts than most ! the first 1. 5 miles was squaded and it had to be completed in 15 minutes . the second part of another 1.5 miles then had to be completed in 11.5 minutes. if you where over 30 you had to complete the individual run in 12 minutes . |
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| Terrynj |
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Paul I dont know why you are bothering now after all you didnt pass one when you were in lol |
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| Paul McClellan |
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Thanks for the replies, gents.
Well I had my first crack at it tonight and only managed 1.3 miles in 11 minutes and 30 seconds. I suppose using the scale that Andy provided and being that I'm (just) past the 45 year mark I could've taken a stroll and still passed it.
However, I wanted to prove my thoery that I'm just as fit now as I was back in the day and if it was 1.5 miles in 11 minutes and 30 seconds back then, then so beit.
I didn't prove that but I did prove that I'm just as UNFIT as I was back in the day so something to be proud of I reckon!
Cheers
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| Alan Rogers |
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Paul, that's a blast from the past you are not the Paul that was in 2company 6plt, caterham were you talk chap, your name rings a bell, I'm sure you were in 6 or maybe 5 plt I'm sure i know of you. I was in 7plt Sid kays plt get out of your scratch-er, and get in your bed area was his catch phrase, good old sid oh happy days of caterham sadly no more i here. |
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| Paul McClellan |
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Hello, Alan.
Yes, you're spot on.
I joined the battalion at the ripe old age of 17 in January 1981 and went straight to 6 platoon; Roger Allen was the platoon bloke and Pete McMillan was my section commander. Steve Johnson, Ash Venn and Sandy Sandford were the old sweats in the company at the time (I remember because I was their NAAFI runner for a while!). I think Mick English was the CSM and CSgt Blenkinsop was the Q-Bloke.
I remember you well, Alan: you were one of those strange people that actually enjoyed running and stuff like that - weren't you into cross country running in a big way?
Agree that they were good times. Pity I didn't realise then that they were in fact the best days of my life: young, fit, single and with zero responsibilities - priceless!
Cheers, Alan!
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| Alan Rogers |
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Hi Paul, glad you remember me, as i know I'm not going senile in my old age now at the dizzy age of 50, seems a long time ago now but i remember all those names you mentioned. Paul i did try the face book thing but need to go back when i have time, thanks for the email and pointing me there.
I have not really had a lot of contact from past members only this site thank goodness for that otherwise, it would be a waste. I use to see Paul Shipley who lives near me but lost contact some two years ago, i miss the good days of my army career as nothing in chivvy street comes close or any body.
Now days i guess i have changed, not in appearance at 50 i still do about 5 miles walking ever day, and have a part time job delivering letters, so I'm still slim fit and have very few Grey hairs good living and all that.
For me civvy street was a turning point in my life, and if I'm honest it has been not good to me, long story i married no kids just a dog for company i guess I'm close to becoming a Recluse, i don't trust or socialise with many civvies long story but i have lost trust in humans.
Sounds a bit heavy, but like i said some bad things have happened to me on this side of the fence, anyway enough of my waffle, im glad you are well and are active here, keep in touch regards Alan Aka Old Rog The Marathon Man. |
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